The Trinity

By J. B. Frisbee

Review and Herald March 12, 1857

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The following articles are taken from the Discipline of the M. E. Church:


“Art. 1. There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body or parts, of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness: the maker and preserver of all things, visible and invisible. And in unity of this Godhead, there are three persons of one substance, power, and eternity ;ā€”the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.”

Query. How many personal Gods of one substance does it take, including the person of Christ, to make one God without body or parts? Ans. Three.

“Art. 2. The Son, who is the Word of the Father, the very and eternal God, of one substance with the Father, took man’s nature in the womb of the blessed virgin; so that two whole and perfect natures, that is to say, the Godhead and manhood, were joined together in one person, never to be divided, whereof is one Christ, very God and very man, Who truly suffered, was crucified, dead and buried, to reconcile his Father to us, and to be a sacrifice, not only for original guilt, but also for actual sins of men.”

Query. As the Godhead and manhood were joined together in one person before Christ was born, never to be divided, were they divided in the death of Christ on the cross?

“Art. 4. The Holy Ghost, proceeding from the Father and the Son, is of one substance, majesty and glory, with the Father and the Son, very and eternal God.”

Query. How can the Holy Ghost proceed from the Father and the Son, if it is both the Father and the Son of itself?

If it be said that the Spirit of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost is one Spirit, with this we all agree. But if it be said that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are three persons in one person, making in all one God without body or parts, with an idea so inconsistent we cannot agree.

The oneness of Christ with the Father may be plainly seen by anyone who will refer to John xvii, 22. “That they (that believe) may be one, even as we are one.” Who could believe that Christ prayed that his disciples should be one disciple? Yet this would be no more inconsistent than the idea of some that Christ and his Father are one person. In accordance with the doctrine that three very and eternal Gods are but one God, how may we reconcile Matt. iii, 16, 17. Jesus was baptized, Spirit of God descended like a dove, and the Father’s voice heard from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son,&c. The Father in heaven, the Son on earth, the Spirit of God descending from one to the other. Who could ever suppose for a moment that these three were one person without body or parts, unless it was by early training. See other texts which appear equally absurd, if such doctrine be true. Matt. xxviii, 18; Acts x, 38. “How God anointed Jesus with the Holy Ghost,” dec. First person takes the third person and anoints the second person with a person being at the same time one with himself.

“That three are one, and one are three,
Is an idea that puzzles me;
By many a learned sage ’tis said
That three are one in the Godhead.

” The Father then may be the Son,
For both together make but one;
The Son may likewise be the Father,
Without the smallest change of either.

“Yea, and the blessed Spirit be
The Father, Son and trinity;
This is the creed of Christian folks,
Who style themselves true orthodox,
All which against plain commonsense,
We must believe or give offense.”


Following is an excerpt written by J. B. Frisbee, taken from an article subtitled, ā€œThe Sabbath Godā€ under the main title, ā€œThe Seventh Day-Sabbath Not Abolishedā€, published in Review and Herald, March 7, 1854.

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THE SABBATH GOD

After we know and remember God, by keeping his holy Sabbath, then the Bible will teach of his personality and dwelling place. Man is in the image and likeness of God. Gen. i, 26. And God said, Let us (speaking to his son) make man in our image, after our likeness. Chap. ii, 7. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life : and man became a living soul. Gen. ix, 6 ; 1 Cor. xi, 7; James iii, 9. That which was made in the image and likeness of God was made of the dust of the ground called man.

This is known to be the true sense from other testimonies that may be given from the Bible. Jesus was in the form of a man and the express image of his Father’s person.

Phil. ii, 6-8. Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God. But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men. 2 Cor. iv, 4. And being formed in fashion as a man, &c. Col. i, 15. Who is the image of the invisible God. Heb. i, 3. The Son; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person. In this sense could Jesus say to Philip in truth, “He that hath seen me bath seen the Father.” John xiv, 9. Some seem to suppose it argues against the personality of God, because he is a Spirit, and say that he is without body, or parts. John iv, 24. God is a Spirit. Heb. i, 7. Who maketh his angels spirits. Who would pretend to say that angels have no bodies or parts because they are spirits. None the less is God a spiritual being having body and parts as we may learn by his having a dwelling place and because he has and may be seen. Ex. xxxiii, 23. And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts, but my face shall not be seen. Matt. v, 8. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. ‘fib. xii,14. Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. Matt. xviii, 10. That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. Matt, vi, 9. After this manner therefore pray ye, Our Father which art in heaven, &c. John vi, 38. For I came down from heaven not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. Chap. xvi, 28. I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world : again I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Does not God say he fills immensity of space? We answer, No. Ps. cxxxix, 7,8. Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence ? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there, &e. God by his Spirit may fill heaven and earth, &c. Some confound God with his Spirit, which makes confusion. Ps. xi, 4. The Lord is in his holy temple,. the Lord’s throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, &c. Hab. ii, 20 ; Ps. cii, 19. For he bath looked down from the height of his Sanctuary; from heaven did the Lord behold the earth. 1 Pet. iii, 12. For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers, &c. Ps. lxxx, 1. Give ear, 0 Shepherd of Israel, thou that leadest Joseph like a flock ; thou that dwellest between the cherubims, shine forth. Ps. xcix, 1 ; Isa. xxxvii, 1d.

John xiv, 2. In my Father’s house are many mansions. I go to prepare a place for you. Rev. xxi, 2-5 ; Heb. xi, 6. For he that cometh to God must believe that he is, &c. This testimony we deem highly important at this time, to know that there is a God. We have no doubt that- if our eyes could be opened in vision, or see as angels see, we should see God in heaven sitting on his throne, and is present to all that exists, however distant from him in his creation.

THE SUNDAY GOD.

We will make a few extracts, that the reader may see the broad contrast between the God of the Bible brought to light through Sabbath-keeping, and the god in the dark through Sunday-keeping. Catholic Catechism Abridged by the Rt. Rev. John Dubois, Bishop of New York. Page 5. Ques. Where is God ? Ans. God is everywhere. Q. Does God see and know all things ? A. Yes, he does know and see all things. Q. Has God any body? A. No; God has no body, he is a pure Spirit. Q. Are there more Gods than one ? A. No ; there is but one God.  Q. Are there more persons than one in God ? A. Yes ; in God there are three persons. Q. Which are they ? A. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. Q. Are there not three Gods ? A. No ; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, are all but one and the same God.

The first article of the Methodist Religion, p. 8. There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body or parts, of infinite power, wisdom and goodness : the maker and preserver of all things, visible and invisible. And in unity of this God-head, there are three persons of one substance, power and eternity ; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. In this article like the Catholic doctrine, we are taught that there are three persons of one substance, power and eternity making in all one living and true God, everlasting without body or parts. But in all this we are not told what became of the body of Jesus who had a body when he ascended, who went to God who ” is everywhere” or nowhere. Doxology.

“To God the Father, God the Son,
God the Spirit, three in one.”

Again.

“Warms in the sun, refreshes in the breeze,
Glows in the stars, and blossoms in the trees.
Lives through all life, extends through all extent,
Spreads undivided and operates unspent.”-Pope.

These ideas well accord with those heathen philosophers. One says, “That water was the principle of all things, and that God is that intelligence, by whom all things are formed out of water.” Another, “That air is God, that it is produced, that it is immense and infinite,” &c. A third, “That God is a soul diffused throughout all beings of nature,” &c. Some, who had the idea of a pure Spirit. Last of all, ” That God is an eternal substance.” These extracts are taken from Rollin’s History, Vol. II, pp. 597-8, published by Harpers. We should rather mistrust that the Sunday god came from the same source that Sunday-keeping did. “Sunday was a name given by the heathens to the first day of the week, because it was the day on which they worshiped the sun.”- Union Bible Dictionary. Afterward modified by the Roman Catholic Church, in the form we now find it taught through the land.

It is very natural to suppose when the Pope set himself up to be God in the temple of God, [2 Thess. ii, 4] that he should have a day sanctified to his worship. This he has doneā€”Douay Catechism, p. 59. Q. What is the best means to sanctify Sunday ? A. By hearing mass, &c. This saying mass is for the priest to gabble over Latin, drink some wine, and give the people a wafer to eat. But God sanctified his day because be had rested on it. Another day for a very different purpose. Gen. ii, 3. In days before the moral fall of Babylon God directed the minds of his honest children right in their prayers, whatever they might think at other times, but now since the apostasy the mind reaches to no god but to the people only, there are many prayers to men we know by their effect and eloquence. We are truly thankful to our heavenly Father that he has led -our minds from such folly, to know, and remember his holy name by keeping his holy day that we might love, serve and worthily glorify him through our great High Priest in the heavenly Sanctuary in this day of atonement.


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